What do you think will make our church thrive and succeed in the next 5, 10, 15 years?
I was just reading Rev Debus's Hold My Chalice. She's asked by congregation leaders to come up with a plan and, she jokes, " Iβm not sure they got what they were hoping for, because I think they were looking for the practical ideas they could implement." and then goes on to list out broader minsterly ideas the group could think about.
But it got me to thinking, if you were to write out practical, implementable ideas - what would you like to see change? It can be pie-in-the-sky ideas.
A few things I'd like to see
- the UUA to be as serious about reparations as they said they were last General Assembly. Live your values. I'd personally like to see a portion of that go to divinity school scholarships to diversify our pool of ministers.
- with the congregational minster shortage, more and meatier tools for congregations that are lay-led.
- more collaboration between churches, facilitated by regional staff. Let's stuff the newsletter with ideas and inspiration from members (not just think pieces by ministers or workshops by staffers). I want to know where i can find a CUUPs program or a Death Cafe. I want to know what different churches do for music, for social enrichment, for social justice. I want to think "Oh, that church down the road is good at ____ while the one two towns over is really strong in the ___ area" instead of each UU church being its own island.
What else?
Are there any places of worship that follow more to the Unitarian side than Universalist? At least in America ?
EDIT: New Lyrics!
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God rest ye Uni-tarians let nothing you dismay
We come together in this space to celebrate our way
The Christmas songs and stories may our beliefs betray.
Oh tidings of peace and harmony, harmony
Oh tidings of peace and harmony
This story talks about a babe through many wonderous songs,
Folks traveling from far away to join a reverent throng
To see a birth that gave them hope and help them to belong
Oh tidings of peace and harmony, harmony
Oh tidings of peace and harmony
We may not all agree to all the details and their worth
But lately hopeβs in short supply around this planet earth
Together we can celebrate each day as a new birth.
Oh tidings of peace and harmony, harmony
Oh tidings of peace and harmony
Thanks everyone - I truly appreciate your input.
Original post:
We are probably 75% agnostic/non Christian, 15% atheist, and the rest Christian, Buddhist or Jewish. Our minister is Christian and Buddhist.
I am doing the service this Sunday 12/17 - Title is Practicing Christmas as UU and it focuses on how many of us celebrate Christmas as a cultural holiday, like thanksgiving, not a religious holiday. We'll sing Christmas songs, not hymns. I found a funny version of God Rest Ye Merry Gentleman that other UU churches have used and rounded up a group to sing it on Sunday.
However, I have gotten feedback from 3 three people that it could be offensive. My opinions are 1) why are people so serious?, 2) if non Christians 'put up with' Joy to the World and Silent Night at UU churches, why can't the very few Christians 'put this in a box' and not be offended.
What do you all think? I do plan to offer some words in the welcome of the service to make sure people understand that this service is to honor the non Christian, but not to 'bash' Christian.
Ugh. TIA
Hello! Quick thought dump for anyone with a few minutes to read:
Background: mid-30s. Grew up in a mostly non-practicing Catholic family. Mostly Atheist myself. Found a nearby UU church and this is my second year going. My disposition is that I love people, real conversation, helping others, but I am not a social butterfly or mingler (coffee hour is very unpleasant for me). I like growing weed, heavy music, raunchy humor, but also like, spreading positivity and acceptance wherever I go, however I can. Just to paint a picture, haha!
Started off just sitting in the back, being healed and spiritually renewed by the music and words (love the reverend at this church). People are of course very friendly. Encouraged to join. I did. Have helped with services a few times, and even joined a small committee this year.
But it seems the more I get into it, the more detached I'm feeling. The church is generally older and, as is the town it's in, what I would consider quite affluent and educated. I'm, like a lot of people my age, married with no intention of having kids, and doing okay enough.
I've felt this way for a little bit now, but thought being more involved would shake that. So here are some thoughts that keep surfacing.
-I just need to try other UU churches and find one I feel more at home in.
-Maybe I'm just not someone who needs a community at this point in my life OR maybe my feelings on that will change if I find the right one.
-Is it just the age thing? I am wary of being ageist, but I can't help think about the fact that a lot of these folks are retired and that is impacting how things are run. Like, I feel SOMETIMES (not always, to be very clear) these committees, meetings, business side of things, are a little stretched out because folks are looking to fill their time. And that's totally fine! I understand a church doesn't run itself, and that collaboration is important. Please understand I'm talking about nuances of approach.
-Different religion a better fit? I kind of like the meditative, rooted in the current, joyous but socially focused ideals of this church, but sometimes I really want to be, hmm... Filled with the spirit, if that makes sense. It's almost like I feel it teeters in this middle ground. Like, I am craving something more transcendent and joyous OR something deeper and more contemplative.
I try not to have regrets, as they're not useful. However, I can't help but think if I had continued to just come and hang in the back, politely stated what I'm like in some way, I wouldn't be considering finding something else. But then again, maybe it's not a bad thing that I leaned in and discovered it's not a perfect fit. And maybe my community is out there somewhere! I'd love to come and go, try other churches, but at this point I almost feel it would be weird to just start showing up way less frequently... Like I'm cheating on them π
Any thoughts or been through something similar?
This sermon is written by Rev. Kathleen Rolenz and delivered by Rev. Wayne Arnason.
How much overlap is there between this community and players of table top roleplaying games?
Iβm slowly starting to put together the idea of using the Wanderhome game (by Possum Creek Games) as a vehicle to have fun teaching children the 8 Principles (or the article 2 reframing of the language). So Iβm wondering if anyone else has had similar ideas or started any similar frameworks with other games.
Besides the charming setting, whatβs drawing me to Wanderhome for this is that unlike a lot of other TTRPGs, there are no combat mechanics (so fighting isnβt even a direct option for conflict resolution).
Thanks!
https://www.religiousforums.com/threads/no-unitarians-on-rf.274107/
Looks like we need more representation there!
"I Will Meet You There"
Sunday, December 3, 10:50 am, 2023
For weeks, there have been conversations in our church forums, at movie screenings, and on the steps as people gather and leave to address the war in Gaza. On Sunday (I think!) we will talk about the struggle to hold these events and dig into one of the issues coming up around the events: the ancient evils of anti-Semitism and Islamophobia. And find ways and places to dig into the hard moral and political questions of this day in the community, weathering them as whole as we can.
Rev. Vanessa Rush Southern, Senior Minister; Richard Davis - Lowell, Worship Associate; Bruce Neuberger, Lay Leader; Galen Workman, Board of Trustees; Reiko Oda Lane, Organist; UUSF Choir led by Mark Sumner, Music Director; Wm. GarcΓa Ganz, Pianist
Jonathan Silk, Communications Director; Athena Papadakos, Flowers; Linda Messner, Head Usher
I live in Michigan and when I get my license I'd love to find a church to go to. Preferably within the Lapeer, Flint, and Pontiac triangle.
What church do you go to? And what is it like? Does it lean Christian? Does it lean Pagan? Does it lean Atheistic? Is it completely neutral?
Hi Iβve been trying to understand what exactly UU is. The lingo seems to be Christian at least but what do you guys believe? Do you see yourself as Christian? Do you believe in Jesus? I know the answer may vary but I want to hear your personal opinion.
"Oh, We Give Thanks: A Bread Communion"
Sunday, November 26, 10:50 am, 2023
In this quiet service, we will make space to be fed, to reflect on our times around the table and how they have shaped us, to share some of the food we love, and to fill up on the nourishment of giving thanks. If you have a baked good to donate to the table (for sharing at a service or afterwards), please let Vanessa know (VRSouthern@uusf.org). Others inspired at the last minute can just put it out at coffee hour after service!
Rev. Vanessa Rush Southern, Senior Minister; Dennis Adams, Worship Associate; Jef Caers, flute; Andy Kessler, Songleader; Mark Sumner, Pianist
Eric Shackelford, Camera; Alex Schofield, Sound; Jonathan Silk, Order of Service; Carrie Steere-Salazar, Flowers; Linda Messner, Head Usher
LIVESTREAM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFYQJkQLwOs
OOS:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ulRhPa815BpqmL18j1NMN2PvUDpvKrSM/view?usp=sharing
PLAYLIST:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGWIRF9PinfxRgne1q7GBrjOLcoTsbzGs
I (19 trans male) have labelled myself an atheist since I was 14. Recently I've found myself leaning agnostic. However, I've also somewhat realized that the only thing I hated about Christianity was the bigotry and dogma. I told this to a friend and they pointed me here. I know nothing, but from what I've been told you guys are basically a progressive branch of gnostic Christianity. I've been told UU embraces science, human rights, and does away with any dogma/doctrine. No homophobia, no transphobia, no misogyny, etc. Which is something I love to hear (if what I've been told us correct).
I'd like to learn more. Most of my time is spent in class or at work, so a podcast would work better than a book. Any suggestions?
Can anyone share suggestions about how to have a more diverse congregation? Like many UU congregations in the US, we are mainly aging baby boomers who are mainly white people and educated middle class. (I qualify for this label.) We tend to be very liberal in outlook - we do not have the scary reactionary factions I have read about here. We seem solvent financially for now and I know many congregations struggle with that - this is not about money. I am talking about age, ethnicity, economic, cultural, etc - all of it! Are there programs, events, service projects, changes in policy, etc that have actually worked for others to welcome and serve those who are not of this group? Forgive me if this offends people - we may be blind to what we are doing wrong! I would like to hear about what works, what does not, etc. We moved our congregation from a pricy suburb to a larger, more economically and ethnically diverse community and we have members who live there, too. We built it and they did not come. It may go without saying that we are doing something wrong! How to turn it around? MANY of us would like it to be different.
Iβm a UU. As such, Iβve been exploring my relationship with God, higher powers and theism in general. I was raised Catholic and taught to believe in God in terms of Jesus and the holy Trinity. I donβt necessarily have any problem with this element of the Catholic faith or religion but Iβm thinking about it.
I do find myself using phrases like βAs God intendedβ sometimes for things I feel like are natural concepts I agree with (eg snow on Christmas Day, having a fire while camping, and so on). I say this because I think itβs a cool phrase and adds some emphasis on the idea or whatever. But I wonder how this comes off to other folks who are not theists, of which there some in UU. Any thoughts or opinions here?
UPDATE: thank you all! Iβd like to mention that Iβm not really a believer in the Christian concept of God, preferring a notion of the Devine.
Hi All,
How does repentance work in a faith where everyone gets saved regardless?
Many thanks :-)
My wife and will be in Orlando next month. Weβre staying in a hotel near the parks, but not in a Disney property. We would like to use the Lightning Lanes if possible, and understand that they are available early for Disney guests at 7 am and not until 8 am for everyone else. We can switch hotels without penalty, but wonder if the benefit of early access is worth the extra cost? Basically we're asking if passes are generally available at 8 am for decent times after the Disney guest-only period or if the only reliable way to get them is to stay in Disney hotel?
I just re-read the proposed Article II for UUA bylaws that will be voted on in the upcoming GA and I finally identified something that's been nagging at me. It emphasizes relationship with other people, but there's not much about relationship with ourselves or our inner worlds. I suppose that I persoanlly do get a lot of that from the Buddhist teachings my particular congregation brings in from time to time. Our congregation also has lay led homebrewed contemplative practices that are inspired by the six sources and beyond. However, is there much in the UU theological tradition itself that deals with our inner worlds (psychology, meditation practices, spirit/soul models, self-awareness, etc.)? It seems like there such a focus on other people in UUism generally and not much about developing ourselves. Is it just me that feels this way? I suppose the fire communion is an example, but even that practice is vague. My personal point of view is that our inner worlds greatly influence how we can show up with other people, so it's an important piece of the puzzle. I don't want dogma, clearly I'd be barking up the wrong tree with that, but what about theory on the level of "the interconnected web of which we all are a part"? The interconnected web is a profound theological concept in my opinion. Beside inherent worth & dignity (or inherent worthiness) what else do we have inside ourselves?
Hey fellow UU's my local group is revamping a lot of their materials. As such, they want to make a booklet to be regularly updated with member info as a directory of sorts.
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If your fellowship does use a directory or you'd make one, what software would you use to make it visually appealing or easy to put into a booklet or something like that?
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Hi All,
Do you have to be Pacifist to be a Unitarian Universalist?
EDIT: Thanks for your feedback everyone! :-) I should have said for context: I am a New Zealander, I support my country's military, along with the militaries of our allies ( Australia, the UK, Canada the US, etc) Also, my Granddad served in WW2.There are some individual wars I didn't agree with (such as the 2003 war in Iraq), but I support the militaries over all.
A few months ago, I had a burst of energy about going to church again. I [M/31] attended UU Meetings for about five or so Sundays, and stayed after each time. I even signed up to be part of SGM (Small Group Ministry)
But after a month or so, it slowly became so taxing. I started dreading going. Getting up to get ready on Sunday felt like an absolute chore. I just felt so burnt out, and I'm not even really part of it. Part of it could be the life I lead now. I have a somewhat active social life, and work demands a lot of me as well. I genuinely thought I could just fit SGM in, but I forgot it was happening, twice. I try so hard to remember, but it keeps getting blotted out by something else. Work, friends, girlfriend. Its exhausting.
As of now, I haven't been back in the chapel for almost two months. I want to go back, but at this point, this awkward, heavy feeling gets worse every Sunday. I want this to be part of my life, but even if I can drum the enthusiasm up, would they even want me back in?
Do you believe the academic consensus (as is represented by mainline seminaries and popularising works which lean slightly secular such as the New Oxford Annotated Bible or the countless non-confessional editions of study bibles) is accurate? Do you believe Jesus was a historical figure or are you mythicists? Do you believe the Jesus Semimar is overly conservative, as Thomas L. Thompson suggests?
I am asking these questions for three reasons: 1- you guys are the most educated religious group, by a long stretch. 2- you also form the bulwark of theological liberalism, at least to the mind of most of the American Christian sphere. 3- you are also the most diverse group, at least from a theological standpoint. One can be an Arian, a Gnostic, a Pagan, a Mithraist or a Secular Humanist and still be in communion with the UUA.
This question has been lingering at the back of my head for quite some time now. Almost all religions (not all), either the Abrahamic religions or Eastern religions condemn this type of behavior to some degree. What is the UU's stance on consuming alcohol and drugs like marijuana? Also, what about premarital sex? I've always been curious because I've heard UU is a progressive organization, but its also a culmination of many religions, and many religions more of less condemn this type of behavior.
Get ready for a fantastic shopping adventure! Join us Friday, November 17, from 9:00 β 3:00 as we offer you a treasure trove of amazing deals and hidden gems in the UUUF Yard Sale. Whether youβre a seasoned bargain hunter or just looking for something special, our yard sale will have something for everyone. CONTACT Kelly at [pr@unversityuus.org](mailto:pr@unversityuus.org) for more questions. We are located 1 mile East of UCF #ucf
John Adams is probably the most Unitarian in American History. Yet annoying my attempt to find out which kind he was have proven fruitless.
There are I know at least three different Positions on Jesus that exists among those who self identify as Unitarians.
I'm curious because when I engage in discussions about the Religious Beliefs of the Founding Father I want to be precise and nuanced and not make the sweeping Generalizations people on both sides tend to make.
And I feel those who want to also label Adams a Deist only have any case if he was the third option. Each of the first two involve a post Creation Divine intervention.
(I posted this a week ago and Reddit removed it as possible spam. Kudos to any spammer who would write such a detailed, topic-specific message. I'm posting it again in hopes that it will survive.)
Our congregation, UUFRC, (UU Fellowship of Redwood City) restructured our Religion Education program and Sunday Services to deepen connections among generations and congregants as well as integrate newcomers more quickly.
We're now in our second year of the new structure. Here's the intro to a description of what we did and why:
βThis is the most energy I have felt at church in a long time. And I donβt just mean since the pandemic, I mean in a really long time!β Thatβs what Cyndi said during coffee hour. The room bustled with people intent in conversation after our second βAction Sundayβ workshop.
Here's the full write-up: https://pcduua.org/news/uufrcs-action-sundays-deepen-connections/
Personally, as a 60+ year UU, I've felt we need to find new ways to meet people's needs and spread our values as a church and a denomination. This new structure shows promise.
"In Transition"
Sunday, November 19, 10:50 am, 2023
This week, the end of Trans Awareness week, we will hear voices of trans folx and be together in their stories and wisdom -- from people we know and love to writers from the United States to the hijra community in India.
Rev. Vanessa Rush Southern, Senior Minister; Rev. Laura Shennum, Minister of Congregational Life; Santana McBride, Worship Associate; Lucy Smith, Board of Trustees; UUSF Bell Choir led by Reiko Oda Lane, Organist; UUSF/India Tour Choir led by Mark Sumner, Music Director; Wm. GarcΓa Ganz, Pianist
Asani Seawell, Chat Moderator; Jonathan Silk, Communications Director; Carrie Steere-Salazar, Flowers; Linda Messner, Head Usher
LIVESTREAM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFYQJkQLwOs
OOS:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ulRhPa815BpqmL18j1NMN2PvUDpvKrSM/view?usp=sharing
PLAYLIST:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGWIRF9PinfxRgne1q7GBrjOLcoTsbzGs
I've been living in Antananarivo, Madagascar for more than 9 years now. There is no UU church or fellowship here that I've been able to discover. Is there any way to connect with individual UUs abroad? A Discord server? A directory?
I'd be up for just a coffee meetup once a month β in English or French.
https://www.uusc.org/resources/congregations/gayt/
UUSC's longest-established fundraising and educational program for congregations.
The alarming rise of fascism, authoritarianism, and nationalism in the United States and in many places around the world is putting the lives of people, and the sustainability of the planet, in critical danger. These far-right forces have co-opted the word βfreedomβ for their own purposes, but the concepts of liberation and freedom mean something very tangible to UUSCβs grassroots partners in communities the world over. Whether they are fighting for the right to seek safety in Mexico and the United States, convincing the UNβs International Court of Justice to address the human rights threatened by the climate crisis in the South Pacific, or replenishing the energy of human rights activists in eastern Europe by addressing burn-out, UUSC partners invite us into an expansive, regenerative space to pursue liberation.
At UUSC, we believe that the transformational solutions we need come from communities most directly impacted by injustice. Join us for this yearβs Guest at Your Table program to learn what UUSC partners are doing to address immediate injustices β as well as the collective liberation they envision for the future. At this extraordinary juncture in history, we think their stories will offer inspiration and guidance on the path toward justice and liberation for all.
Making a Gift to Guest at Your Table
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Guest at Your Table (GAYT) is UUSCβs annual intergenerational program to raise support for and awareness about key human rights issues. Since UUSC works in more than 20 countries, with over 50 grassroots partners, there are thousands of individuals involved in and who benefit from the work that our members make possible. The program is an opportunity to celebrate grassroots partnership, support human rights, and learn about just four of these individualsβthe βguestsβ in Guest at Your Table.
By coordinating a Guest at Your Table celebration for your congregation, you help participants of all ages nurture lasting connections with UU principles, build awareness about social justice and human rights, and strengthen UUSCβs work. Thank you for joining us in this special tradition!
To register as your congregationβs Guest at Your Table coordinator, or to request materials or information, please contact Julian Sharp, Senior Associate for Congregational Support, at jsharp @ uusc.org.
A step-by-step guide for planning your congregationβs Guest at Your Table Program is available here.
2022-2023 Theme: Hope. Courage. Action.
Through UUSCβs Guest at Your Table program, congregations provide vital support to those who need it most, including communities impacted by forced migration, climate disasters, and other human-made crises. UUSCβs global partnerships center the voices of those who are most affected by these issues and who best understand how to solve them. Join UUSC for Guest at your Table to learn more about our amazing global partners who embody the hope, the courage, and the action needed to uphold human dignity for all and honor our connections with each other and the earth.
The injustices and crises of the past year have underscored the importance of our shared goal β a world free from oppression, where all can realize their full human rights. They also have emphasized just how big a task that is.
To meet the enormous challenges of today and build a more just future, we need big ideas and bold change. We must fundamentally transform the way things are, so that we do not perpetuate systemic inequities and repeat the harms of the past.
At UUSC, we believe that the transformational solutions we need come from communities most directly impacted by injustice. Join us for this yearβs Guest at Your Table program to learn what UUSC partners are doing to address immediate injustices β as well as what they envision for the future. At this extraordinary juncture in history, we think their stories will offer inspiration and guidance on the path toward justice.
This past year, we highlighted the ways the pandemic has changed the relationship many of us have with home, as well as the importance of home to our UUSC partners, who are fighting for their homes amid violence, economic devastation, and climate change.
I have invited /u/Cult_Buster2005 to become a moderator of this subreddit. They've been an active member under a previous account name (they can provide details if they like, but I won't do so out of respect for their privacy) and are generally more active than I am, so they'll usually be able to respond more quickly to mod issues than the rest of the mod team.
Hey y'all!
I attend a lot of virtual stuff but want to find some in person service and community.
I'm in the Inland Empire but it looks like both UU chapters in the area are no longer around.
Does anyone have a church or study group they attend and recommend?
Bonus points if it's a younger crowd but not a requirement.
Anyone else reading Ruttenburgβs βOn Repentence and Repairβ with their congregations or on their own?
I just started a few minutes ago and can already tell Iβm going to be interested in what others think.
"The Enfleshed Life: What Life and Love of a Body Entails"
Sunday, November 5, 10:50 am, 2023
One of the biggest injuries that Christianity is part of in our journey to human wholeness is seeing the body as sacredβnot in the sense of something pristine that could be defiled or whose urges were dangerous, but as something to be honored and trusted. We can blame St. Augustine for some of it. We can blame a world bent on extraction and marketing to us from piling on. However, the wholeness we seek to find in nurturing one another asks for a life that relishes and cherishes enfleshed life. Letβs talk about that!
Rev. Vanessa Rush Southern, Senior Minister; Rev. Laura Shennum, Minister of Congregational Life; Carmen Barsody, Worship Associate; Galen Workman, Board of Trustees; Reiko Oda Lane, Organist; UUSF Choir led by Mark Sumner, Music Director
Shulee Ong, Camera; Jackson Munn, Camera; Gregory Stevens, Chat Moderator; Jonathan Silk, Communications Director; Judy Payne, Flowers; Linda Messner, Head Usher
First I want to be clear and say I know who the Gadflys are and I don't agree with them. However, I do have a question. Why don't they just make their own separate denomination of UUism and spread that? I know in the Gadfly Papers there is an argument about splitting the denomination or dissolving it, in which I do not agree, but how come they don't officially separate and create a new Denomination outside the UUA? At that point they could dictate how they want their form of UUism to run and make changes to their version of the covenant if they so wish, without having to try to manage to (in the only words I can think of at the moment) "take over" the Association from the inside?
Also I guess a secondary thing to add upon this would be, do you think if the covenant changes next year, that they would split anyways due the fact they are generally against the 8th Principal (as far as I know of) and they more then likely would not like the new 3rd Value of Justice due to it incorporating parts of the 8th principal within it?
Hello everyone! I'm not UU, I'm more of a humanist, and I've gone to probably a dozen Sunday services of the UU church near me over the past year. I've volunteered my time to help out with projects on a handful of occasions. And I've attended some luncheons. I keep hoping that the sunday service will improve once I know more people and can feel more comfortable.
I really like the few people I've gotten to know, but to be honest, I do not like going to the services on Sunday. There are references to belief in God and faith (which I don't believe), touchy feely stuff, hymns being sung, etc. It feels like a bad fit for me in that sense.
This Sunday, one of the songs was all about faith in God being the answer and I just closed my hymnal and stood there politely, even though the choir leader was trying to get everybody to participate. I'm not going to participate when I don't believe.
And the coffee hour afterward feels awkward to me because while some folks have talked with me, it feels mostly like small talk. People there gravitate toward the people they already know well and are friends with and I feel left out. Yesterday after the touchy feely service, I just left and didn't go to coffee because I just felt so mismatched with the service. (Small group situations have been much better.)
I'm curious how many folks regularly skip attendance on Sundays and just do other offered activities that have more depth and actual participation and sharing?
Or could you share things your UU does to welcome visitors in a way that makes them comfortable and feel included?
I get the sense that this community genuinely wants to be welcoming, but just misses the mark and that's why they are not getting new and/or younger people attending again after a first visit.
One of the things I keep hearing about when it comes to comparing UUism to other religions or especially Christian denominations, most people compare it to The United Church of Christ, by saying they're like UUs disguised as Christians or that UCC Christians are basically Christian Unitarians.
Because of that, and especially with the UCC is recognized for being very liberal compared to other denominations, is the UCC that similar but with a more Christian twist or are there more differences than similarities?
Can someone explain exactly WHAT Unitarian Universalism is?
Thank you!
A member of our Fellowship reflected on why it is important for all children to see themselves represented in childrens literature. She's a librarian and educator who has thought about this topic for many years.
She reads a commonly-banned book at the beginning of the video (until January, when our permission to include that reading expires). Set aside 15 minutes and watch the video. Here's the link: https://youtu.be/A8IjBv3RnDo
Can someone help me understand why an atheist would want to lead a congregation? My current experience is an atheist uu minister that is very clearly anti christian. How can you be UU and anti Christian? How can you lead a congregation of people who believe in many different things but you actually look down on certain beliefs? Iβm not a Christian, but I am UU and my understanding is that weβre open to all.
Found UU 4 years ago. It had been a healing journey and going well. We got a new minister 2 years ago and itβs entirely changed my view. Our church wasnβt big into UUA and for the first time in years I felt like this was a church I could actually be part of. New minister is head over heels for the UUA and now it feels like weβre getting UUA shoved down our throats every week. Itβs completely turned me off. I donβt go very often. Feels like Iβm back in a Christian church being told what I have to believe.
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Hi, I'm interested on learning more about UU and was looking for some books to read. The problem is I have very poor eyes sight so I rely on the accessibility features of ebook readers to get by. I can't seem to find many UU books to purchase in a digital format. Is there something I'm missing or are UU books in digital format not really a thing?
What purpose does religion serve now? What purpose can it serve? With membership declining and ministerial shortages in every denomination, what will the future of religion and Unitarian Universalism be? What could it be? Weβll explore these questions, and how we might learn from our past, those around us, and the moment weβre in to consider a course for the future of religion. Rev. Kron is the Transitions Director of the Unitarian Universalist Association.
Hi there. I'm a progressive Baptist minister who just landed a great staff job at a large UU congregation. I'd like to explore UU better to understand and serve the congregation.
I'd appreciate any books you'd suggest about being Christian and UU, as well as books about the modern history of UU. I already have a basic understanding of UU culture and history from online sources and previous experience, so I'm looking for something a little more academic and in-depth.
To be clear, I'm already LGBTQ+ affirming, universalist, pluralist, etc. I'm quite comfortable with my Baptist heritage. I don't need to be convinced *out* of being Baptist, just guided *into* UU.
"Connecting Across Borders and Divides"
Sunday, October 29, 10:50 am, 2023
This is the time of year of the Pagan celebration of Samhain, and the Christian (no doubt borrowed and adapted!) witness to All Souls and All Saints, and to the celebrations of DΓa De Los Muertos in Mexico and across Latin America. All of these community and religious ceremonies and sacred times begin with the Samhain idea that at this time of year, the veil between the living and the dead is thinned. It is a season, therefore, for reaching across that veil and pulling those we have loved and lostβtheir spirit and their legacyβmore intentionally into our world for a while.
In the spirit of this time and sacred season, you are invited to bring a copy of a photo or a memento of someone you have lost that we can put on the altar during worship. Be prepared to share their name. You are also invited to bring their favorite food to the worship. The foods that you bring will be shared during social hour.
Rev. Vanessa Rush Southern, Senior Minister; Mari Magaloni Ramos, Worship Asscociate; Carlowe Connelly, The Pagan Interest Circle; Megan Lehmer, Board of Trustees; UUSF Bell Choir led by Reiko Oda Lane, Organist; UUSF Choir led by Mark Sumner, Music Director; Akane Ota, Soloist; Wm GarcΓa Ganz, Pianist
Shulee Ong, Jackson Munn, Livestream Team; Asani Seawell, Chat Support; Jonathan Silk, Communications Director; Amy Kelly, Flowers; Linda Messner, Head Usher
Has anyone here ever been on a pastoral search connitteee for a UU congregation?
If so, what was the experience like? Did you find it rewarding or frustrating? or both? How time-consuming was it? What did you have to do? I am imagining that you would have to somehow figure out what the congregation wanted in a minister, then cast a more or less wide net for a candidate, then evaluate the candidates? Right?
Iβm trying to figure out if I should volunteer/try to get myself nominated for a search committee that my congregation is putting together,
Another issue: We had been a lay-led congregation for our entire history until we stuck our toes in the water a few years ago with a part-time interim minister who is now leaving. I am not sure if this is an anomaly or not, but we never had a vote about whether or not we wanted a minister in general before hiring our first minister, partly because sentiment was split on the issue and partly because those who really wanted to hire a minister, saw a perfect opportunity (someone local that they liked and would be willing to take a part-time position) and wanted to take action before that opportunity went away, So, instead of having a vote on whether or not we wanted a minister in general, we just had a vote on whether or not we would hire that one person in particular for a short period of time as sort of a trial run.
Well, now that this contract minister is leaving, instead of having a vote about the βexperiementβ and whether or not we want to continue to have a minister, they just decided to go ahead with another search.
I have pointed this out and was told that we will indeed have a vote soon (at our next quarterly meeting), but it is clear that they are still going ahead with forming the search commiteee in the meantime.
So, I am feeling a bit befuddled by and apprehensive of the process so far.
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"Lessons for Future Ancestors"
Sunday, October 22, 10:50 am, 2023
"Let us measure success by how many of us can say: I am living a life I donβt regret. A life that will resonate with my ancestors" -adrienne maree brown
Matt is a musician and worship leader who has led hundreds of services for UU congregations across the country. He has a degree in hand drumming and serves as Director of Community Life for Sanctuary Boston.
https://www.rhythmrevelations.com/
Matt Meyer, Guest Preacher; Rev. Vanessa Rush Southern, Senior Minister; Diane Allen, Board of Trustees; Mark Sumner, Music Director; Elliott Etzkorn, Pianist
Jonathan Silk, Communications Director; Eric Shackelford, Camera; Amy Kelly, Flowers; Linda Messner, Head Usher
Hello!
Thank you for having me.
I'm an atheist in Southern UT that is going to try out the UU here in St George, UT. I'm interested in seeking a sense of community and joining social circles outside of just kids school, our neighborhood etc in a place that is welcoming to an atheist.
What should I expect? Will I be welcomed as an Atheist?
Also, I dont know how to ask this without coming across as ageist or something, but can I expect millennials like myself? I dont mind what age anyone is, but would like it if there are other families or possibly other millenials.
Because weβre human, we hurt each other, we get hurt, and thereβs a way through that, but that way through depends on the ability to deliver and accept a powerfully meaningful apology. Healing and repair of broken relationships doesnβt happen on its own. This sermon podcast begins with a reflection written by Sara Ford and read by Peggy Lin.
Oh boy, I don't even know where to start. My grandma raised me since I was little because my parents were out of the picture due to drug abuse and my father died when I was 1. Anyway, I loved her more than anything. She was my mentor, mother, friend, everything. My grandma was always single when she had me so it was just me and her for 35 years. I continued to stay at home after high school and worked and lived with my grandma. She was the best. She took me fishing for the first time and taught me how to throw a curve ball. We was poor but I didnβt know it. She always found a way to take me to Pizza Hut after those ballgames. She never missed one btw. Even if she had to take an oxygen tank. She loved those cigarettes lol. I swear sometimes I can still smell them here and sheβs been gone a while. We lived in the southern United States so she was a great cook and we know food here trust me. I am hungry right now and I have no way of getting any food Iβd do anything for her to cook me one more meal.
Well, about a couple years ago my grandma went for a regular checkup and it came back breast cancer. She had her right breast and then a few months later her left breast removed. She did fine for a while but the cancer ended up coming back more aggressive than ever and she died two months ago. I didn't work because I took care of her for the past year and half and I lived in her apartment. She did have just enough burial insurance to bury her but thats it. I also have a severe disability and am applying for disability right now, I have been turned down but I am appealing.
Anyways, since I lived off her income as she did as her caretaker since it was just us and since I am just a grandson I have no income anymore.I do not have a car and live in the middle of nowhere. I have applied to wfh jobs but my internet just got shut off and my electric gets shut off at the end of the month and I will also be evicted unless I can pay the bills. I also have no food and am honestly hungry. I have been so cripplingly depressed since she died I cannot get out of bed some days and I don't have a car and the nearest jobs are 10 miles away. I have horrible legs and they are so bad I have tried to work but it feels like someone set my legs on fire. I have went to the doctor and applied for disability and food stamps but like I said it taked forever and I have no speakable family to ask for a ride. I know people have it worse than me and some people will tell me to suck it up, but I have been hit with everything at once and I miss my grandma.
If anyone can help, I will list my cashapp Pp and venmo below. I know this looks awful, but I don't care. I know I am not lying and I miss my grandma more than anything. Even if you can't give anything please send good vibes, but any little bit helps, like I said I am down to no food at all and everyhing is due.
You know, I think there is a special place in heaven for people who raise children who know one else wants. She saved me from foster care and I will be forever grateful for that.
Cashapp $winterstorm55 Venmo @winterstorm55 PayPal @winterstorm55
So this was something that passed through my mind when I was thinking about the nature of the divine, the concept of a supreme being, and what it would mean to be The One.
So I'll pose this in the classic philosophical thought statement. If we suppose God to be omnipotent, omnipresent, and omniscient then it would mean that God is everything everywhere. Every action and event in existence is, in the literal sense, caused by God. This would then mean that the realm of infinite possibilities and actions is open only to God as a being without limits. God has done everything, is doing everything and will do everything. However, this presents a paradox (as so often happens in questions about God).
What defines our freedom as limited beings is the fact that there are only so many things we can do and we have to forgo options to choose other options. In essence, having a choice is necessary for freedom to exist. However, by God's own nature, God will do all of the choices. God cannot, in fact, abstain from any choices as God is everyone making all possible choices. So, here's the question that currently has my brain acting like a cat batting around a ball of yarn. Isn't having no limits itself a kind of limitation and makes any action you take meaningless because you have access to all of the actions?
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I'm on a spiritual journey and have been told that thos place is accepting of wherever your at in your spiritual journey
Reparations for systemic racism and attempted genocide is now part of our national conversation, yet confession, without making attempts to redress harm, is nothing more than virtue signaling. Weβll explore the complex question of reparations through the lens of those most harmed, with a particular focus on indigenous justice.
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The second Sunday in October is typically an opportunity for you to reflect on your financial support of the church in the year ahead. This year, our Executive Team will confess some hard and hopeful truths about the current state and future of the church as we prepare to enter our 2024 fiscal year. This podcast from Stewardship Sunday begins with a reflection by worship associate Betsy Hearn.
Hello, I am asking for prayers for my life. It is a mess. I am down to my last loaf of bread I had frozen, disconnect notice on electric and water and just to my end. I am in my 20's and feel like I am going nowhere. I have no job, car or family. I lost the only family I had about a year ago and I have tried to work but I cannot due to crippling anxiety and I have horrible type 2 diabetes and get infections a lot. I have no family I can borrow off of and my credit is trash, so I can't borrow money. I have cashapp if anyone can help. My cashapp name is $captainmidnight515, if anyone could help I would greatly pay you back when I get on my feet, if not please send me good vibes as I have never felt this low in my life. I literally have no food, rent is 2 months behind, getting evicted at the end of the month, health is hot, no family, sometimes I just feel like I should not be here. I am gay also and my speakable family disowned me for that. I have been to several churches to no avail. I was able to apply for disability but was told it could take months to years upon years to get it. I just need help right now, my stomach is hurting from hunger, and I need some help. I also have paypal. My paypal is rcb5167. I am ebarrased to do this but I have nowhere else to turn. I have tried to get help from churches and other organizations, but to no surprise I was turned away and told they didnt have anything. But I know there are people who have it worse than me, but I am scared I cannot make it. I dont have a car or anything and live in a rural area. I am so scared. Please, even if you cant send me money please send me good vibes and thoughts. I know this looks very suspicious, and I do not blame you for thinking that, but I swear I am not lying and am at the end of my rope, I really think I can't go on. Sorry, I hope I didn't make you depressed by reading this. I miss my family, but i am still weirdly mad at them? Is this normal? I have applied for medicaid and am going to try and get mental help when it gets approved it just takes forever. I would just like to ask everyone again, to send good vibes, I really feel like I cant go on and if you can send anything please do anything will help. This is very embarrasing to do, but I have no other options. On top of all this Iβm just starting to transition to the woman Iβve always been so that isnβt helping either. This is the worst feeling in my life and I donβt know if it will get better is that the scary part is.
So hey there is it possible for being both as some people called me out that you can't worship Christ being a Hindu but Hinduism allows it
My church has just put out a document in which we read that βchalice lightersβ (the children who light candle in the chalice at the beginning of each service) βare expected to state their pronouns.β
To my ears, βexpectedβ sounds coercive. (A little like there might be a nun waiting in the wings to slap them with a ruler if they donβt state their pronouns). I would rather the document read βchalice lighters are encouraged (or strongly encouraged) to state their pronouns.β
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Hi everyone!
I'm a 32-year-old American woman from the South. My early years were spent attending a small Methodist church in my hometown. However, due to personal reasons linked to an experience there, I distanced myself from it. Since my mid-teens, I've identified with Secular Humanism. I also identify strongly with liberalism.
I've always been intrigued by different cultures and religious beliefs, though I personally don't subscribe to supernatural notions. A few years back, I attended some UU meetings in my previous city, but I haven't explored it again since relocating.
I'm keen to hear from fellow atheists about their experiences with the UU community. I'm genuinely looking for a group of like-minded individuals, though I admit the term "church" still brings some unease.
Your insights would be greatly appreciated!
"By Stander, Standing By"
Sunday, October 15, 10:50 am, 2023
This weekend when we honor awareness about our Trans Beloveds, I want to talk about some stories I've heard from members lately. I want to talk about how we show up and invite others to do the same. I want to talk about the real danger of the bystander.
Rev. Vanessa Rush Southern, Senior Minister; Rev. Laura Shennum, Minister of Congregational Life; Daniel Jackoway, Worship Associate; Liz Strand, Board of Trustees; Hamner Family, Chalice Lighting; Reiko Oda Lane, Organist; UUSF Choir led by Mark Sumner, Music Director; Lambert Moss, soloist; Wm. GarcΓa Ganz, Pianist
Shulee Ong, Camera; Felix Borggraefe, Audio; Asani Seawell, Live Chat Moderator; Jonathan Silk, Communications Director; Athena Papadakos, Flowers; Linda Messner, Head Usher
I had a kind of tough emotional experience at church this week. My minister gave a talk about updating article 2. She said it is an exciting movement for UUs. We are changing with the time. We have identified six values that represent UU today which will replace / update the princples and sources.
The whole thing just made me feel left out, like those 'we' statements didn't really have anything to do with me.
I am emotionally invested in being a living tradition, and I was aware that the article 2 commission did a lot of work, and I have seen the six values. None of that was a surprise. And I'm not here to fight change.
What was surprising to me was how it made me feel. Being informed "we" as a religion are going through these changes made me feel ...alone? Irrelevant. It's such a contrast to the 8th princinple project which had so much positive discussion, which each church was invited to opt into.
I'm wondering if anyone else is experiencing the same or has words of wisdom for me.
We have a local UU Congregation and I have been a few times trying to decide if it's for me or not. The last time I went, a lady in charge of various committees came up to the microphone and started yelling at people and swearing saying what the hell is wrong with all of you and why don't you come to the things I set up. Sounds like she is in charge of various meet ups, maybe work parties or fund raising things, and she clearly just got fed up that not enough were attending.
What got me though is it seemed perfectly normal and nobody batted an eye to her yelling at and swearing at everyone in the room. Not a very respectful way to be heard and if I'm honest it really put me off to that Congregation and I haven't been back since.
Does this kind of thing happen often? Was it an unusual thing? π€